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Sawo Project - Kloxo-MR Discussions => Kloxo-MR Bugs and Requests => Topic started by: djscooby on 2015-04-25, 17:19:20

Title: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: djscooby on 2015-04-25, 17:19:20

Hi MR

When i test mails from roundcude all are good on mail-tester.com (10/10 passed) but when i test from ms outlook program i get lower score because of this

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-1.985 PYZOR_CHECK Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
When using outlook clients ip adress is dynamic .

I tested this with POP account and with ssl enabled & disabled on smtp ports 25 & 465 both issue..


Any idea on how to fix this ?

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 17:38:41

You mean also testing mail sending via ms outlook with mail-tester.com?

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: djscooby on 2015-04-25, 17:43:59

Quote from: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 17:38:41

You mean also testing mail sending via ms outlook with mail-tester.com?

Yes for same mail account of course

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 17:49:55

Send via roundcube will be different mail header compare to send via mail client like ms outlook.

Try compare their mail header.

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: djscooby on 2015-04-25, 18:07:43

i think the problem is this :

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X-Spam-Test-Scores: DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,DKIM_VALID=-0.1,DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, 9 X-Spam-Test-Scores: DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,DKIM_VALID=-0.1,DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1,
10         HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,PYZOR_CHECK=1.985,SPF_PASS=-0.001,TRACKER_ID=1.102,
11         TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001

Received: (qmail 19210 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2015 15:52:30 -0000    on outlook 20103

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X-Spam-Test-Scores: DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,DKIM_VALID=-0.1,DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1,
10         HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,PYZOR_CHECK=1.985,SPF_PASS=-0.001,TRACKER_ID=1.102,
11         TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001 10         SPF_PASS=-0.001,TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001

Received:  (qmail 19435 invoked by uid 48); 25 Apr 2015 15:57:11 -0000 from rouncube


Same results also from kloxo MR 6.5 f version using outlook 2013

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: Spacedust on 2015-04-25, 18:22:27

Where do you send this e-mail ?

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 18:25:21

Don't care about it if send mail of both recieved by recipient in 'inbox' (no in 'spambox').

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: djscooby on 2015-04-25, 18:28:54

Hi spacedust

i send this mail to mail-tester.com to view spam score from a clients email adress using rouncube & outlook 2013 .

from rouncube score is 10/10 <- perfect
from outlook i get 7/10 <--(not bad since no mail will get undelivered) with the problems i described on first post..


@MR yeah i know not a big deal just wanted to point this out.. I beleive its normal because its send by outlook (so external network) and also using a dynamic ip adress (isp provide dynamic usually)

yahoo & gmail gets fine both messages (outlook+rouncube)..
hotmail flags them both as spam...

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 19:01:25

Hotmail is not fair. We will see their all their MX records without PTR/RDNS if testing in intodns.com.

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: Spacedust on 2015-04-25, 19:53:19

Quote from: MRatWork on 2015-04-25, 19:01:25

Hotmail is not fair. We will see their all their MX records without PTR/RDNS if testing in intodns.com.

Yes and it's very hard to get them back to normal if they ban you so keep your systems SPAM free and control blacklists. That's why sendmail-limiter is so important.

See this one: http://www.dnsinspect.com/outlook.com

Title: Re: Mails send from microsoft outlook problem
Post by: djscooby on 2015-04-30, 12:35:17

Thanks for the advises spacedust & MR I will keep that in mind ..